Friday, May 5, 2017

WOW! It Sure Has Changed

Guys...Ladies, (and children of all ages?) I was going through a site where I found a lot of old or I could say vintage patterns for sale.  '50's, 60's and 70's.  LOOK at the sizing.

Pattern:  Vogue 4092 - Vogue Special Design
Description:  Lovely fitted suit with sleeveless blouse.  
Date:  1960

Size:  10 - Bust 31 - Hip 33   Now THIS sizing was 1960.  

That would be a so-called size 0 now.

 A  used -to -be size 12--- before the manufacturers started the "vanity sizing" for all the folks who had gained weight was 34- 23- 34. The manufacturers got together and started the revised vanity sizing so that a size 20 lady could pick a size 12 off the rack and it would fit since the dimensions had been greatly enlarged.  This was so they wouldn't be embarrassed to go pick a large sized dress off the rack.  A so-called size 12 in today's sizing is ginormous.  I know because I wear that size, and trust me...I could never fit into a "back in day"  size 12. 

Just was aghast at the difference.  I don't think I could diet to those measurements of the days of yore. 😩  


  1. Yeah... I'm right there with you. Most of us have definitely gotten bigger.

  2. I my 20s I worked in women's retail, business wear, and even from the mid-80s to early 90s sizes have increased. That's why I think it's so silly when that old internet thing about Marilyn Monroe being a size 14 gets circulated. Yeah, like that was a size 4 or size 6 by today's standards!

    1. Right. And look how small those measurements were for a 14.

  3. And this is why my mom could say "I was a size 12 all my life"
    That being said. I was very skinny in my 20s and could never find clothing to fit me. I had to go to the teen agers department and dress in skirts and blouses, or just buy clothing that was too big
    Happy week-end

  4. Portions and foods that are fattening such as fast foods really changed everything. I do agree things have sure changed.

  5. Well I really can't relate to the women's sizes however I do know that my waist has increased 2 inches in the last 10 years.

  6. Since I'm larger than a size 12 I'm sort of happy to have the measurements made a little larger Oh my, I wonder what size I would have worn back then?

    Actually sewing patterns haven't changed as much as retail. I was helping my niece make a dress and we used a size 16/18 and she would wear perhaps a 10-12 in retail sizes. It's all very confusing!

  7. Hi Sis!
    Your side 12. I had one too I though our body had about still same your constantly moved in your body..could be eating more nice yamiy foods our good friend with Beth and you with me her bad times, I still remember with good and bad time. These years had bad time with rains all the time I don't know how I can do that...I may not played golf..make show my body OK when I still OK.
    Sis,Katie,Miyuki and Vitoria

  8. Your American sizes are different to ours, but I agree with you!! Also I have noticed that you can think you are a size 12, but that will not be the case across the makers! I range from a UK size 8 to 16 depending on the store I buy from!! It's ludicrous!!

  9. I'm not familiar with old sizing so it was interesting to know the difference! I always have hard time finding pants that fit me because I'm rather skinny but have an annoyingly giant bottom!

  10. Hi Sis!
    Today of May was the day your questional not in private to avoid accountablcity The big question is what delete the siticulaus your mentality of where always going wrong my mentality of always calcalated approach needs for profound change..I start sinking very hard in my mind.
    We has still rains day I had my biker in home it was very helps or going to shopping place.My back yard as use beautiful the parks!
    Sis. Katie, Miyuki and Victoria

  11. Dearest Carole,
    Yes, they have altered the sizing over time.
    For a reason of more accuracy I like the European sizing. A size 4 is their size 34 and it means a breast of 34 inch! Quite clear.
    My formal education has been fashion design and later, while living and working in Italy, I did drive home one day from still consulting my German company during vacation. On the radio was a very interesting program. They do take every decade or so, some 1,000 people and adjust measurements for a certain size. People have all grown taller in length and that affects everything else.
    It is an ever developing thing I guess but it still doesn't make sense they way a size 12 in the 1960s was configured versus a size 12 now.
    Sending you hugs,

  12. And here's me wishing that women's sizing would be like that of men's. At least a 34" bust or a 38" hip is unambiguous. No vanity size guessing needed.